Babb Bits: BCS Gearing Up For Another Mess

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By Charles Babb
Posted Nov 30, 2008


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Jim Tressel
It looks like the BCS may be in danger of producing another controversial championship game, this time involving taking Oklahoma over Texas despite the Longhorns having a win over the Sooners. Charles Babb talks about that dilemma, OSU's BCS chances, and more.
The Media and Coaches (not the BCS) are Unfair

Listening to the media carping and whining about how they believe the BCS is unfair is almost as enjoyable (and profitable) as taking my hammer out of the garage and repeatedly smashing it into my forehead.

Do you want to know what isn’t fair?

What isn’t fair is Texas beating Oklahoma 45-35 on a neutral field, controlling the game, putting the Sooners away in the fourth quarter, and then having the media and coaches come to the brilliant conclusion the Longhorns are somehow not the better team.

Explain to me how this works. Please. I’m dying for a logical explanation. This is shaping up to be at least as informative as Miss South Carolina’s infamous beauty pageant answer.

Don’t tell me about pretty offense or great defense or any such notion because it doesn’t fit. Don’t tell me how Oklahoma and Texas are playing at the end of the season – as if that will make a difference when BCS bowls are played in 5 weeks and a BCS title in almost 6 weeks.

45-35.

Don’t insult my intelligence with comments like, “Well, Oklahoma beat Texas Tech 65-21 and Oklahoma State 61-41.”

Texas can say, “We beat Oklahoma State just 28-24, but we did play this team known as the Sooners on a neutral field…and won.”

45-35.

Imagine for a moment Ohio State defeating Michigan and then watching the Wolverines play for a championship because the Wolverines ran up the score on their opponents while Jim Tressel chose not to take this route or because they were a team built more on defense.

The media perpetually whines and cries like a little girl over the unfairness of ‘the system,’ but they are the ones perpetuating systemic injustice. They are the ones who, in spite of the neutral site results, have decided to toss out the Texas-Oklahoma game like dirty dishwater and place the Sooners third and the Longhorns fourth.

Worse than the media are the coaches. Talk about hypocrisy. Show me a single coach in the United States of America (or any country on this planet) who would agree with seeing their team ranked below someone they defeated on a neutral field. I’d like nothing better than to grill each and every coach who leapfrogged Oklahoma to second place while voting Texas in fourth.

“So what you are telling me coach is if your team was in this position you would vote the foe you defeated over yourselves? Is this accurate? Are you in fact telling us on the field results have no bearing on your opinion of who the best teams are? Should we simply vote for who we think is prettiest and forget about playing football games?”

45-35.

I’ve seen this type of ludicrous logic several times in college football with two standing out in my mind. In 1993, Notre Dame defeated Florida State, finished with the same record, and voters came up with the nutty conclusion the Seminoles were more national title worthy. In 2000, Miami (of Florida) toyed with Florida State for most of their meeting before putting them away, but it was Florida State who was chosen over the Hurricanes to meet Oklahoma in the BCS title game.

45-35

It’s time to either admit the on the field results are meaningless or put Texas where they belong – ranked ahead of the Sooners. We don’t need a playoff. We simply need a little common sense.

Utah or Ohio State

What will happen with the BCS?

Right now speculation is rampant on who will fill out the BCS bowls. Will the lower echelon conferences land two representatives to go along with lesser light Cincinnati? If UCLA were to pull the upset over USC next weekend, all of this will be a moot point, but bowls are about dollars.

At the end of the day, bowl committees are backed by not just big businesses but also the local, mom and pop variety.

The United States is in a recession, and the recession is expected to be fairly brutal. Sure, we keep hearing this unfounded optimism from some of the financial folks, but if credit card interest rates rise as they are currently projected it will clamp down on spending. Despite the government going through money like Notre Dame has football coaches, it is barely even registering a blip on the world economy.

What does this mean?

It may mean little to nothing if the Buckeyes and Utah were being eyed by the Sugar Bowl, but it may mean the difference between Florida and the desert if the choice for the Fiesta Bowl is Ohio State or Utah.

If Utah is selected, their fan base is fairly close. In a booming economy with people spending and burning through their paychecks like an Aggie Bonfire, it would matter little or not at all. However, in an economic downturn expected by some to be the worst since the Great Depression, it could be the difference because Utah is too close.

If a fan base is overly close to a bowl location, they will attend but scores will come down for a day or two and drive home. They can (if they want to be frugal) pack coolers and food and spend only a few dollars outside of their tickets and maybe one tank of gasoline to return home. They can bring their own booze if they want to drink, won’t need to rent any cars, and at most they will need one night in a hotel. That one night could come after the game in Arizona – or perhaps on the way home in Nevada. More likely is a two night stay in a hotel even for the most enterprising, but again – it could come in Nevada as easily as in Utah.

Total Costs:

  • One night in a local hotel - $100
  • One tank of gasoline - $40
  • Snacks and a couple of meals - $50
  • Misc. (alcohol can be packed so this is only souvenirs) - $60
  • Profit for the local economy - $250

If a Buckeye fan from Ohio or the Midwest comes for the bowl, it is a completely different story. They have to fly into the local airport, rent a car (or use a taxi), purchase virtually every meal, if they are drinkers - buy all of their alcohol, and stay in a hotel for several days. In sum, their fandom will know no bounds and apparently neither will their wallet.

Total Costs:

  • Three nights in a local hotel $300
  • Taxi or car rental - $120
  • Meals for three days - $150
  • Misc. (including alcohol for those who drink) - $130
  • Profit for the local economy - $700

Now multiply these numbers by maybe 20,000 people who would consider going to the bowl game (bare minimum) and you start getting into the hundreds of thousands of dollars for Phoenix and the entire state of Arizona. Multiply it by 30,000 (a more likely number), and Ohio State could easily mean at least a million and maybe close to two million more for Phoenix.

This may not happen. It may be the Fiesta chooses Utah with the thinking Ohio State fans may not travel back to Phoenix, again, for a bowl in a tight economy. The Buckeye fan base may be seen as less enthused to be in the BCS than a team like Utah considering they wanted the brass ring and a third national title game in a row.

However, if it is about dollars and cents, common sense may dictate Ohio State as the choice for the BCS. Utah would make an at large selection, and Boise State would be left in the cold.

Even if it is not about the money, since the Utes and Buckeyes did play one common opponent in Michigan – how did they look and what was the final score?

Ohio State – Michigan 42-7
Utah – Michigan 25-23

Notre Dame

What was pretty clear to even many football neophytes but apparently a mystery to the Irish administrators, their fans, and the national media is now an openly discussed topic. Notre Dame jumped the gun by giving Charlie Weis, an unproven head coach with not so much as a signature win, a ridiculous contract.

With their 2008 regular season in the books, Weis and the Irish are now in danger of entering their third decade without a national title. 2008 was a failure in comparison to the proper benchmarks for this proud program, and 2009 will be an improvement but how much is the question.

Not only did they lose four of their final six games, but do you realize the record of the opponents the Irish defeated is a combined 21-50. Only Navy, of all of their wins this season, has a better than .500 record.

Nor is this a change of pace.

In 2007, aside from managing the worst season in Notre Dame history, the Irish defeated just three teams – Stanford (4-8), UCLA (6-7), and Duke (1-11) with a combined record of 11-26.

Apart from Navy the Irish have not defeated a team with a winning record since before the housing market collapsed. Among other news at the time was Barack Obama being considered a long shot to win the Democratic nomination, and the Dow was at 12,000 and climbing.

Combined, the Irish have turned in their worst two year record in almost 50 years.

Weis needs to go. He has needed to go for almost two full seasons and was a poor hire from the very start, and I’m still stunned the media bought it hook line and sinker. In 2005, at the Ohio State and Notre Dame Fiesta Bowl, I had multiple discussions with media members who swore Weis was the next great coach in college football. When I asked for evidence or proof or pointed out his complete lack of experience and any truly impressive wins…they clung to their position like a koala their eucalyptus tree.

There is a reason the former Irish athletic director left, and it wasn’t just because he thought he might like a change of scenery. Weis was largely his boondoggle, and he knew what was going to happen. He had more information than others, more quickly, and he wisely put it to good use by jumping before any others could leave the sinking ship.

Yet, the president and others were involved as well, and most of those still remain. Whoever was involved needs to answer some very tough questions. They are running one of the top five programs in the history of college football into the ground, and it needs to stop.

Gerry Faust
Lou Holtz
Bob Davie
George O’Leary
Tyrone Willingham
Charlie Weis

Once Weis has been given the pink slip (or resigns), Notre Dame will have fired their last six head coaches, and the only one who was worth his salt was former Woody Hayes assistant Lou Holtz.

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Comments
"FAT CHARLIE" WHO CARES. I think he is a JOKE that ND bought into, not the rest of the nation.
Utah is already going to the BCS. The choice for the bowls is between TOSU and Boise St. Utah will probably go to the Fiesta.
I see the top two SEC teams playing the top two Big 12 teams, one for the NC. Penn State plays USC. That would leave OSU vs either UC, Utah, BC, or Va Tech which is the only one with real intrigue.
I have 2 friends who are Odor Lame fans and only 1 of them still beliees in Charlie Weis. i personally think he might be trhe worst coach in Div. 1-A
There is no question the money the fans would spend is a major factor in the selection. Putting on a good show is another important factor. Moreover, the Fiesta Bowl and the Bucks have a love affair. The Fiesta committee just LOVES the Buckeyes: Buckeye Nation travels extremely well, they spend money, and they always put on a good show (with oen prominent exception - v. Florida. My money is on the Bucks going to the Fiesta.
Why is Texas beating Oklahoma on a neutral field (Dallas,Tx) considered a monumental feat? Try beating them in Norman, very few teams have.
Who cares about ND? I hope Chunckie Charlie stays the whole 10 yrs. It would be better if scUM had him for the ten years
We do NOT need a playoff. It will destroy the regular season. If you say otherwise, you are lying to yourself.
How would a playoff destroy the regular season? You would take the top 8 and play those 4 games in mid December, play the semi's on New Year's Day (ZERO school missed for these student athletes) and play the championship 2 weeks after. The regular season would still be huge because you probably could only lose 1 game. And no BS about how the other bowls would be meaningless cuz they are meaningless now.
Does anybody else think that the BIG TEN brass need to fix the schedule so that our bowl-bound teams are not sitting on their hip pockets for a month or more while other conferences are still playing. These other teams seem to be in better football shape in the bowls than we are because of the long layoff. Just a thought from an old man. O-H
hawk, I agree 100%. We should have a play-off, and there shouldn't be any worry about losing regular season credibility because unlike the 30-something NFL teams, there are 119 Div-1A teams. My personal theory is to have 8 conf champs (most likely B10, B12, SEC, ACC, P10, BEAST, WAC, MWC) play 8 other at large teams: 16-team playoff, conf teams can't play each other in 1st round. Then every 4-6 yrs, the league evaluates the 8 confs gauranteed playoff bids to make sure their conf is still the "most deserving" of the bid...
Babb, I've given up on ALL of the ranking systems. They're either rigged, biased, or both. How does Ohio State lose to #1 USC and drop to 13th. USC and FLA lose to unranked teams and remain in the top-8. Absolute garbage! I - O!!!
College football is unique in that the regular season means so much. No other sport has the importance of the regular season like college football. To pretend that would stay the same is foolish. Every other sport that has a playoff has the importance of the regular season diminished. Look at college basketball. Ohio State did not even fill 3/4 of the arena for the game the other day. Why? Because there is a playoff and that is when people will pay attention.
Is that why March Madness gets so little attention? C'mon, it's the greatest event in sports. The reason why the arena is not full is the weak schedule and has NOTHING to do with the post season. Play Cinci, Pitt, West Va, etc and the arena will be full every game. And why should football teams that play a tough schedule be penalized in post season. If only the regular season matters, then everyone will play a weak schedule and play in front of 3/4 full stadiums. I do like the 16 team playoff system even better.
----Utah is indeed going to the BCS. The question is who will select them and what might that mean for the Buckeyes and Boise State. ----A playoff is not what college football players need. From a selfish fan perspective it might be fun, but tell the kid who blows out his knee in those extra games and loses his shot at a better life, "Aren't you glad we have a playoff?" and watch the reaction. ----That the coaches put OU ahead of Texas is a complete farce. Justice would be for every coach that voted in this manner, their team suffers the same fate.
Maybe we should'nt even play the game at all since someone might get hurt. Why don't you ask the players, I'll bet most want a playoff. That's why the work out year round. As far as the coaches putting OU ahead of Texas: I wonder if the Texas players want a playoff? That would answer who is the best and not the voting coaches.
Babb, I respect and still think that you write great articles...but that was a LAME reason to oppose a playoff. And Buckeye Warrior, you can't compare to the basketball system to football. The hoop squad plays 29 games BEFORE the B10 tournament, let alone the NCAA/NIT tourney. Let me break it down to you and everyone else that thinks the regular season will lose its luster if NCAA FB went to a playoff system: The importance is based on 1)the # of games in the season, and 2)the ratio of avail playoff spots to teams in league. The NFL has a longer reg season than the NCAA including its conf champ week...AND has only 36 teams compared to NCAAs 119. *The more games you have to play, the more opportunity teams with no losses will lose and teams with losses can catch up. The less teams in the league, the less teams you gotta beat out to make the playoffs* If you're still not convinced, listen to this: last week Oregon State was 17th (NOT IN MY PORPOSED TOP-16 PLAYOFF LIST) and had they beat Oregon would have STILL went to the Rose Bowl. Which means that even if teams were in the top-16 with 2, 1, or ever ZERO losses, they still would have to fight to make it in! Use the bowl games as they are to hold the 4-round, 5-week playoff system (5 weeks b/c you add extra week to prepare for Nat. Champ game). Tell me that doesn't sound interesting, and show me a player that doesn't want to play. O - H...
Fellows - Here's reality. Nothing will happen to the BCS format until the 2014/2015/2016 at the earliest. Meanwhile, understand that we are already in a playoff/tournament and it starts the first week of September. Note: the Big Ten/Pac Ten have a gigantic advantage, no Conference Championship game and the ability to set their own out of conference schedule. USC only had to beat one team this year and they did, 35-3, then they blew another gimme to Oregon State. The Ohio State only had to beat two teams this year and they fell short. Both Conferences lost out. Poor Penn State will lose by 4 touchdowns at least to USC. We should ALL appreciate the successes of The Ohio State Football team and thank the lord that we have Coach Tressel instead of Charlie or Rich.
I thought it was a great article, Charles, and I just loved the first paragraph. You seem both funny and smart. How do you get along with Mr. B? Who is also funny and smart.
I agree with all of Babb's points accept one....Utah is already in. Your whole spiel about them battling for OSU is a mute point. It is OSU vs Boise St. whom is of a small city university in Idaho. I doubt the BCS will be very confused on who they should select. A playoff for major college football is a falicy. I can see that more and more as time moves on. With that said the polls are "off the hook"! Ranking Oklahoma over Texas is a travesty. Longhorn Nation must be in a Tizzy! Go Bucks!!
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